tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post6125057634920682046..comments2008-09-25T09:18:55.597-04:00Rick Copelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11612114223288841087noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-91222655601673636942008-09-25T09:18:00.000-04:002008-09-25T09:18:00.000-04:00@Rick<BR/><BR/>I've added the ticket. It's #1996Peterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02785187546511014796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-20815038745772652222008-09-24T10:26:00.000-04:002008-09-24T10:26:00.000-04:00@Peter:<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the contribution! Luckily, Mark Ramm happened to be sitting in the same room as me when I saw your comment, so I asked him. His recommendation is to file a ticket at trac.turbogears.org with the tests as an attachment, and it will probably be added to TG 1.1.Rick Copelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11612114223288841087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-51717597112204324492008-09-24T09:47:00.000-04:002008-09-24T09:47:00.000-04:00I've tried to use this pattern in a TurboGears 1 app, and I've written a fairly substantial test suite. Where can I post it for it to be useful?Peterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02785187546511014796noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-19544503497379748252008-07-24T19:28:00.000-04:002008-07-24T19:28:00.000-04:00Rick: grok uses a model/view separation, where our view is much like your controller. except that Grok models typically don't get looked up by the views as the view is already acting for a context model object (due to Grok's traversal through content, not code).<BR/><BR/>With TG's controller mechanism I imagine the typical approach would be to just build two entirely disparate URL spaces if you want to expose the same models through two REST protocols, or a REST protocol and a non-REST protocol. <BR/><BR/>In Grok you can accomplish that too, but besides this, essentially the same resources (in URL space) can be approached using multiple UI skins or REST protocols as well.<BR/><BR/>Grok's REST support has been released for quite a while now. :)Martijn Faassennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-11674250108673557392008-07-21T15:55:00.000-04:002008-07-21T15:55:00.000-04:00@Lakin:<BR/><BR/>Full disclosure: The main reason I didn't use MethodDispatcher is that I didn't know about it. ;-)<BR/><BR/>Also, the TurboGears 1.0.x release series runs under CherryPy 2.x, not CherryPy 3, which is where (I believe) the MethodDispatcher was introduced. This recipe should work for the older CherryPy.Rick Copelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11612114223288841087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-22427441959773862622008-07-21T15:47:00.000-04:002008-07-21T15:47:00.000-04:00Nice. Glad to see turbogears progressing towards this sort of feature set. <BR/><BR/>I'm just curious why you didn't use or mention the built in cherrypy MethodDispatcher which, AFAICT, does the basic same thing?Lakin Weckerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00259375099647799314noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-18223395312334439852008-07-21T09:19:00.000-04:002008-07-21T09:19:00.000-04:00@ken:<BR/><BR/>I realized that the metaclass magic isn't strictly necessary here, either, and have added a note to the post to indicate that.Rick Copelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11612114223288841087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-89737873797007526422008-07-20T23:35:00.000-04:002008-07-20T23:35:00.000-04:00CP 3 lets you register a custom dispatch function, so metaclasses shouldn't be necessary in TG 1.5, either.<BR/><BR/>If Mark commits some tests with his ticket or you or Chris creates a 1.x recipe page, I'll try to port it to 1.5.Ken Kuhlmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02079069537982453408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-15900429154711172092008-07-19T11:41:00.000-04:002008-07-19T11:41:00.000-04:00@Chris:<BR/><BR/>I certainly don't mind you putting it up on the wiki. How about whenever one of us has time, it goes up?Rick Copelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11612114223288841087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-86353302173490465062008-07-19T08:02:00.000-04:002008-07-19T08:02:00.000-04:00That's a pretty cool recipe!<BR/><BR/>I would love to have that somewhere on the <A HREF="http://docs.turbogears.org" REL="nofollow">TurboGears doc wiki</A>. Would you mind putting it up there? The best thing, of course, would be a small, functional example project.<BR/><BR/>If you don't have time to do this, and you don't mind, I can put up a page for this recipe, when I have time.<BR/><BR/>Chris (TurboGears sysadmin)Chris Arndthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11557717645933848489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-31946919798914076622008-07-18T16:10:00.000-04:002008-07-18T16:10:00.000-04:00The tg2 version shouldn't need any metaclass magic, as we have control of the object lookup mechanism and can inspect the RestMethod subclass. As for when it will be in the tg2 repository, Mark's adding a ticket now.... :-)<BR/><BR/>As for comparisons to Grok, I can't really comment in detail because I'm not too familiar with Grok. In TurboGears, we don't actually expose the model objects; we expose a tree of controller objects which may (or may not) interact with the model. So it would be simple to create two controllers that affected the same model; you just create two controllers.Rick Copelandhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11612114223288841087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-3611290917089791202008-07-18T16:04:00.000-04:002008-07-18T16:04:00.000-04:00Does the TurboGears 2 version also need a metaclass? Grok's REST support looks quite similar, except we don't need a metaclass nor expose decorators.<BR/><BR/>Do you have support for exposing the same model through REST and non-REST both? Or multiple REST protocols for the same model?<BR/><BR/>http://grok.zope.org/documentation/how-to/rest-support-in-grokMartijn Faassenhttp://faassen.n--tree.net/blognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18508356.post-33455583515436439182008-07-18T16:02:00.000-04:002008-07-18T16:02:00.000-04:00When this will be in the tg2 repository?Batokhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01896692220559183675noreply@blogger.com